Paramore have opened up about Zac's return, the decision to carry on as a band and more.
Hayley, Taylor and Zac sat down with Zane Lowe to talk about everything for Beats 1 - airing at 6pm UK today (April 20) here. Below is a sneak peek at what's discussed.
[TO HAYLEY] YOU HAVE THIS STREAK IN YOU WHICH IS JUST LIKE, 'MY VOICE WILL PROPEL ME OUT OF THIS'...
HAYLEY: "I wish I could say that was the case with this record. I do feel like, you know, you listen to like Brand New Eyes and I yell the entire 40 minutes.
"I wish I could take credit for fighting through things bravely with this, like go ahead and hate me for pointing at you for the next 60 seconds but I was kind of flatlined and I think that if it weren't for Taylor, the band would be over.
"Yeah, I had enough, 'I’m tired of losing friends'. Or tired of doubting myself and maybe if I just don't or if I'm not doing it all and I won’t have anything to doubt, I can see what else I can do."
IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO - NO DISRESPECT EITHER WITH OR WITHOUT TAYLOR - YOU COULD HAVE GONE, 'OKAY COOL, IF THAT'S HOW IT IS, I'M GOING TO BE A SOLO ARTIST, BUT YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO WANT TO COME BACK TO THE FAMILY
HAYLEY: "It’s funny because everyone does want to focus on whether it's about being a girl or being a singer. It’s like this great thing, great orange hope or whatever the hell people say, and then when all of a sudden bad stuff hits then that things thats been out there on this pedestal becomes the target.
"The most important thing for me is not to paint myself in a victim kind of light. But I will say I just kinda was done because my heart was tired. Taylor told me, we went to coffee one day and he was like I am your friend and I will be your friend if Paramore is a thing and if it’s not a thing. If you can write music then we’ll write music. Doesn’t even have to be for anyone - no one ever has hear it. You just tell me and I'll support you and having choice having options and understanding like okay I have choices.
"It's up to me ultimately. It's not up to someone reading a blog or writing a blog, you know. This is not up to anyone and that was the first step to me kind of seeing a little bit of that light at the end of the tunnel. From that point on he and I whether we were going to anything personally or whatever it just shifted the tone of the foundation I think a little bit."
[TO TAYLOR] DID HAYLEY COME OUT AND SAY THAT FLAT OUT TO YOU, LIKE, 'I THINK I'M DONE'. WAS IT THAT CUT AND DRY?
TAYLOR: "No, because she’s so nice. I think thats 100% what she wanted to say but I kind of had to pull it out of her a little bit. I know that because there were so many times I wanted to quit this band, so I could tell.
"I think to be young and at that point been doing it for so long I think we were like, ‘Why are we doing this?’ Are we doing this because we’re supposed to? Are we doing this to make money? Are we doing this to prove some sort of point. If we don't want to be here, if we’re not passionate about this, there is no point. Just everything that follows this, this record would be made in vain and everything that follows that. It just sounds like I don't want to be part of it either."
HAYLEY: "I can stand in front of anyone and say there's so much peace now, you know we run into each other around town and it's so nice to find that. Taylor and I actually got to experience that moment together because we were at the coffee shop talking about whether we were going to stay in this band or not when we saw Josh. It was crazy. It just the way that things go.
"I think you rarely get to experience real full circle redemption in your lifetime but on your own, in your own kind of solitude but I think to be able to share that moment with Taylor. And this thing that happened that really affected both of our lives and affected Zac’s life too, to kind of have closure was so great. It was really beautiful."
And on Zac rejoining the band, the trio said...
[TO ZAC] HAD YOU BEEN HARBOURING A DESIRE [TO REJOIN PARAMORE]?
ZAC: "Totally. We were getting closer but they had somebody playing with them I thought was pretty serious. I always thought it’d be rad but I didn't know. I’d had dreams about it, of them calling me and being like, ‘Hurry up, we need you.’ and I’d be like, ‘Oh crap.’ Deep down, subconsciously and consciously, just kind of let it happen.
"He just asked me if I wanted to and I was like, 'Of course I would love to, is it cool with Hayley'. He said, ‘Of course’. So within the first month of recording the record Taylor just walks outside and he’s like, ‘Hey man, do you want to join our band again?’ Because I’m a realistic person, I was like ‘Just a tour? What do you want me to do?’ Because I was just playing drums on the record, I wasn’t in the band.
"Like, 'Of course I’d love to but it was a hard time though man, in 2010, I know for them - I can’t speak for you guys - but we’re so close now I know a lot of the details but for me it was like this thing where I had this moment after leaving the band, that I was walking my mailbox and I had no identity anymore I was just a person. It was this kinda freeing thing, the thing I kinda thought I wanted but it was really an uncomfortable feeling.
"Not that I care about fame or being in a cool band, I’ve never cared about that in my whole life, but it was something we did. This is our occupation. We live and breathe music. So it’s like I don't have that anymore. When he asked that, I was just like I was taken aback because I was just so thankful. I didn't expect that and also on the flip-side of that, it was a really heavy decision in the first place that I left. It was a rad thing that we were hanging out, being able to play on the record. I wanted to make a really smart and adult decision about it, so I took a week. I already knew that I wanted to do it. I knew it then, when we first talked to you on the couch. I knew it when we first started. I know it now.
"I obviously missed six years outside of it, but I’ve seen a lot of this. There’s only one record I didn't play on, Self-Titled, so I saw a lot of it. The thing that drew back the most and the most immediate yes was getting to spend time with Hayley and Taylor every day."
LET'S FOCUS ON PARAMORE AS A DYNAMIC. AESTHETICALLY WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE HAD BEEN ANOTHER SHIFT IN THE PERSONALITY OF THE BAND AND SO ULTIMATELY YOU WERE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR SOME REINVESTMENT IN FRIENDSHIP YOURSELVES IN SOME RESPECT
HAYLEY: "At a certain point I just felt like we'd been through - like how much more can you really go through? I know that people don't always keep the same friends throughout their entire life but I always thought I would. I met Zac and Taylor at such a young age. We hung out all the time, we were kids. Before anyone knew our names, before people knew us as Paramore, any of that. So I didn't have Zac in my life anymore. Never mind Paramore, I just didn’t know him anymore and that made me sad all the time. But it made me so happy that Taylor and Zac had reconciled.
"And for whatever reason I stayed back from that until we started to play music again together. When you start to lose friends, you lose a part of yourself. You lose these memories it’s like you’re not allowed to have them anymore for some reason and it's painful. We’re still going to that because obviously like you said there has been another shift and that's okay. I think what is actually harder is the life stuff that you have to go through and the things you have to really wrap your head around."
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION TO ASK YOU ZAC - HOW DOES JOSH FEEL? IS HE PLEASED YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?
ZAC: "It’s an interesting situation because like we both started playing together and we left together now I'm the only brother back. But it's like you know what? he's an awesome brother. He's been so encouraging to me.
"I sat him down, we had lunch and I was like, ‘So you know I’ve been playing on the record and they asked me to be back in the band.’ He’s like, ‘Oh I thought they already did. I figured that would happen.’ Then he was like, ‘I’m stoked for you. You’re my favorite drummer and you need to be playing drums.’ It was a really encouraging thing. Obviously it's not back to normal. He’s not in the band. It's not how it used to be but that's a cool thing about life."
You can listen to the full interview at apple.co/Beats1 from 6pm UK.
Paramore's new album 'After Laughter' is out on May 12 via Fueled By Ramen. Watch the video for new track 'Hard Times' below.